Post by rehabitat on Jan 22, 2009 4:11:05 GMT -5
I know most Coroner fans vote MV their favourite album, however I beg to differ.
I think that Divine and Lilith are absolute classics, and Shes So Heavy is a cool cover of a Beatles song that I really like anyway. The original is better, and that's usually the case anyhow. But everything else in between leaves me cold.
For me it starts with the sound; it's too dry, lacks emotional impact. Too polished in a way. And the remaining songs have too many changes that often don't flow well into one another. There are lots of great riffs in most of the songs (I can't listen to About Life at all, the whole premise of the song is quite arrogant, shits me) but they are ruined by poor changes and that cold mechanical sound. Not that I mind cold sound, it's fine for some industrial music, but for me it just doesn't suit Coroner's music.
I much prefer NMC because mostly the changes work really well and the sound is chunkier and more distorted. I know you can't hear Ron's Bass very well and it's probably just a symptom of cheaper production that gives the sound less separation and air, but on this album it works. K.I.S.S. There's also a better energy in NMC, like they are really trying to prove something, not just play fast. It has a kind of live sound, which make sense if you remember that they had not played too many gigs up to 1989, so maybe that's what they were going for. NMC was superior in many ways to most thrash going around in the day, and equal or greater than releases by the big names in the biz (shits all over Anthrax and Megadeth albums of the time, and probably all their other ones too)
And of course I come to Grin. Fucking masterpiece. For those of you who don't get it, you are missing out BIG TIME. I've said it before, it is almost perfect. Yes it has flaws, like some of the songs are a tad too long and a couple of changes don't really work. If it was perfect I guess it would get boring after a while. But for a metal album, hell, a rock album, its got it all. It seems to me that the band have learned from mistakes that were made on MV on this one.
For me, Mental Vortex was just a stepping stone between the two great Coroner albums. If you think about it, if you can hear it, NMC was all about jazz, a touch experimental but still straight up, and Grin was all about a blues sit-on-a-groove feel. The other albums were more or less just about thrash, or classical or something...anyway, despite some fine moments, they just didn't gel as complete works.
Thoughts?
I think that Divine and Lilith are absolute classics, and Shes So Heavy is a cool cover of a Beatles song that I really like anyway. The original is better, and that's usually the case anyhow. But everything else in between leaves me cold.
For me it starts with the sound; it's too dry, lacks emotional impact. Too polished in a way. And the remaining songs have too many changes that often don't flow well into one another. There are lots of great riffs in most of the songs (I can't listen to About Life at all, the whole premise of the song is quite arrogant, shits me) but they are ruined by poor changes and that cold mechanical sound. Not that I mind cold sound, it's fine for some industrial music, but for me it just doesn't suit Coroner's music.
I much prefer NMC because mostly the changes work really well and the sound is chunkier and more distorted. I know you can't hear Ron's Bass very well and it's probably just a symptom of cheaper production that gives the sound less separation and air, but on this album it works. K.I.S.S. There's also a better energy in NMC, like they are really trying to prove something, not just play fast. It has a kind of live sound, which make sense if you remember that they had not played too many gigs up to 1989, so maybe that's what they were going for. NMC was superior in many ways to most thrash going around in the day, and equal or greater than releases by the big names in the biz (shits all over Anthrax and Megadeth albums of the time, and probably all their other ones too)
And of course I come to Grin. Fucking masterpiece. For those of you who don't get it, you are missing out BIG TIME. I've said it before, it is almost perfect. Yes it has flaws, like some of the songs are a tad too long and a couple of changes don't really work. If it was perfect I guess it would get boring after a while. But for a metal album, hell, a rock album, its got it all. It seems to me that the band have learned from mistakes that were made on MV on this one.
For me, Mental Vortex was just a stepping stone between the two great Coroner albums. If you think about it, if you can hear it, NMC was all about jazz, a touch experimental but still straight up, and Grin was all about a blues sit-on-a-groove feel. The other albums were more or less just about thrash, or classical or something...anyway, despite some fine moments, they just didn't gel as complete works.
Thoughts?