If Coroner started their career in 1995

[giddis4horses]

I'm sorry I have'nt introduced myself and I don't really know how much people still post on here but what the hell. I'm aware from reading other threads that people generally lay most of the blame at the feet of noise records for the fate that befell Coroner. I wonder though if they had been starting their career in 1995 around the time Opeth started if they would have had greater appreciation. Back in the 80's and early 90's there was a much more narrow perception of what metal was and bands like Coroner, Voivod and Watchtower were viewed quite sceptically by metal fans despite getting a lot of critical praise. I think that today's metal fans are less likely to put of by album descriptions of avant garde or progressive. Just interested what everyone thinks, of course another way of looking at it is that there would'nt be Opeth's, Dillinger Escape Plans or Ephel Duath without Coroner's, Voivod's and Atheist's.

[Carole]

Mmh, it's hard to tell. Every single person into metal that I introduced Coroner to absolutely loved them, even way back in their career. I can't help thinking that more exposure could have changed a lot of things. I've always thought that Coroner's style was rather accessible in the intense metal arena. When I first listened to them, I was actually NOT into such intense metal -- they opened my eyes (ears, rather) to something new and I never looked back

[rehabitat]

You make some interesting points.

giddis4horses said:

Back in the 80's and early 90's there was a much more narrow perception of what metal was and bands like Coroner, Voivod and Watchtower were viewed quite sceptically by metal fans despite getting a lot of critical praise.

It is probably a little unfair to place all the blame on Noise. But in some old Coroner interviews, Marky explains how the label was signing new bands at an exponential rate, at the expense of their existing stable. On the other hand, you are right that "metal" in those days was, despite the number of different classifications, a narrowly defined field, and even though progression was lauded by critics, it was often not embraced by the average consumer.

giddis4horses said:

I think that today's metal fans are less likely to put of by album descriptions of avant garde or progressive. Just interested what everyone thinks, of course another way of looking at it is that there wouldn't be the Opeths, Dillinger Escape Plans or Ephel Duaths without the Coroners, Voivods and Atheists.

There is normally a time-lag between those pushing new boundaries, and the common acceptance of this by consumers. So those that are at the forefront of progression are forgotten by, or not fully exposed to the consumer when the second wave of progression becomes mainstream. Another example that Coroner were "before their time".

I wish it were possible that some of Coroner's material was released again and properly marketed to a new audience; much of it has a timeless quality that I think would appeal to the modern listener. If I could afford it, I would buy the publishing rights from Noise and do just that.

Welcome giddis4horses, I hope that you continue to make useful and intelligent contributions. You must have adventurous taste if you are into Dillinger and Ephel!!!!! Classy stuff.....

[SacrificedSon]

admin said:

Mmh, it's hard to tell. Every single person into metal that I introduced Coroner to absolutely loved them, even way back in their career. I can't help thinking that more exposure could have changed a lot of things. I've always thought that Coroner's style was rather accessible in the intense metal arena. When I first listened to them, I was actually NOT into such intense metal -- they opened my eyes (ears, rather) to something new and I never looked back

The interesting part about the band is that they're not as aggressive as most Thrash bands. I think that's what makes them a bit easier to get into.

And I'll agree with the threadmaker. I'd be interested to see that work out, myself.

[nefesh]

sacrificedson said:

admin said:

Mmh, it's hard to tell. Every single person into metal that I introduced Coroner to absolutely loved them, even way back in their career. I can't help thinking that more exposure could have changed a lot of things. I've always thought that Coroner's style was rather accessible in the intense metal arena. When I first listened to them, I was actually NOT into such intense metal -- they opened my eyes (ears, rather) to something new and I never looked back

The interesting part about the band is that they're not as aggressive as most Thrash bands. I think that's what makes them a bit easier to get into.

And I'll agree with the threadmaker. I'd be interested to see that work out, myself.

I think it depends which album you're talking about, re: agression. I mean, RIP takes more of a spiralingly technical scalar route to the harshness of thrashy sounds...whereas Slayer and Exodus where just fine with having a less technical, almost-hardcore-punk-inspired attack. Ron yelling "WE'LL SLASH YOUR NECKS UNTIL YOU DIE!" is just as chilling to me as Tom Araya discussing Josef Mengele. Two different approaches with simliar results, you know? Coroner's technique was infinitely more refined than most thrash bands.....musicianship was never sacrificed, for better or for worse.